P-4 helmets
Message 2999, Jun 17, 2001
Hello Gents, This is a progress report on the P-4 "restoration" project that I
discussed a while back, here on the forum. The attached photo images show the helmet as it
sits today, about half way through the rejuvenation process.
You will note that I elected not to repaint it, feeling that the original scratches,
bumps, gouges, and bruises were earned honestly, in some cramped cockpit environment about
40 years ago and therefore constitute an important part of its essential character. It may
have been previously repainted at some time in the past, although the paint appears to be
original on inspection. However, the lack of a USAF winged-star decal on the forehead
makes me suspect this--despite the lack of the usual evidences of repainting.
The helmet is now complete and ready to reassemble, thanks to a little help from my
friends (you know who you are, of course) in scaring up the few original P-4 parts that it
lacked. The helmet is a size large, with original size large P-4 head harness sling. It
has the original H-75/AIC earphone top-hats and receivers elements, as well as the
original earphone cushions (all are in excellent condition), and the wiring harness simply
needs to be reinstalled, the left side rubber com-connector boot sewn back on. The 02 mask
tabs are not firmly riveted back on yet (they are merely joined non-permanently for these
shots), nor is the chin strap yet riveted firmly back on (these are all final steps). The
mask tab rivets are the same Sailrite "Speedy-Rivets" that I mentioned were
obtainable from that firm and which closely match the original items.
One artificial added touch will be the use of one of Maggot's excellent winged star decal
reproductions on the forehead exterior of the shell and then the helmet will be ready to
mate up with a suitable MS22001 that I already have here, waiting to be used with it. This
will be the first attempted actual restoration of a P-helmet that I have set out to
accomplish and hopefully it will pass critical inspection, with that disclaimer/waiver in
mind. I have previously restored an HGU-2/P that is in my opinion a beautiful specimen,
authentic in every detail, and in near immaculate condition (it can be seen at my website
under the "FOR SALE" sign, although it isn't actually for sale--see comments
below).
The one sad aspect that I have been unable yet to address is the lack of the three thin
open cell foam sponge pads on the crown, front, and rear of the P-4's shell. It bothers me
greatly that I have been as yet unable to find suitable foam to duplicate this critical
feature, but I do not want to use anything less that 95%ile acceptable material. This is
the only final "drawback" that I have not been able to successfully overcome;
the original foam hardened into friable dust and had to be removed.
At any rate, I thought I'd share this with you all and any comments, criticisms, and/or
other relevant information would be welcomed. I have two P-1 helmets that are awaiting
similar treatment, but time is so scarce these days that it may be a while before I tackle
those last two projects.
Bluelight and I have chatted about restorations on occasion and I think he agrees with me
that restoration ideally shouldn't include brand-new factory bright finishes and complete
refurbishment to "like-new condition", since the flight wear and tear that these
artifacts have acquired through actual use are themselves important to the authenticity
and essence of the item (flight helmets don't come directly from the factory with built-in
character and an inherent essential aura of honest flight use, of course). Divergent
opinions to the contrary are, of course, always welcomed, nevertheless.
Cheers, DocBoinkinstein





Message 1410:
See the attached pictures for my P-4 helmet. I get this helmet years ago from a friend who
is in the French Air Force. I 'm the first civilian owner of this one. When it was given
to me it was in a very bad shape, painted in a thick and awful grey color: really a bad
job done on this helmet.So I restored it to a more standard white and put the US Air Force
decal on front. As this was my first helmet I just know that this was an 'American P-4' so
I restored it with a US decal. Now I know much more on helmets and I have a doubt as there
is no label inside the helmet and no 'wing and star' on the leather disc inside. I 'm sure
of just one thing: this helmet was made by Selby (found it engraved on the visor rail). I
think that it could be an American made P-3 upgraded to P-4 standard made by Selby Shoe
Company for a foreign air force contract. It could be for French Air Force but also for a
lot of NATO nations. I know that there is on the forum many guys expert in that helmet
type, and hope that someone could give me more informations. If someone has pictures of
decorated P-type helmets or pictures of French Air Force helmets, don't hesitate to send
it to me. Thanks all, Philippe



Message 1412:
Hi Philippe, What a beautiful helmet! It is interesting to see that it has the old Type 1
visor (hanging down into the pilot's field of view) and cast oxygen mask
receivers of the Scott/Sierra/Dunrite type. To judge from the holes on the lower front the
helmet is missing its chin strap. If you want more detailed comments from some of the more
knowledgeable members of the forum (Steve Norris, Rich Mays, and DocBoink) I suggest that
you post a photo or two showing the inside of the helmet with headphones. Cheers,
Bluelight 14